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The Critical Role of Fascia in Holistic Postpartum Healing | Anna Rahe EP 201

• Maranda Bower, Postpartum Nutrition Specialist

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Fascia isn’t just a buzzword—it’s the connective tissue system that supports and communicates with every part of the body. In this episode, Maranda and Anna Rahe, founder of GST Body, uncover why fascia is the missing piece in postpartum healing. We’re not just scratching the surface here. Anna explains why traditional methods like belly binding worked so well when combined with fascia-focused techniques, how fascia is more fluid than solid, and why that matters for healing. 

If your postpartum clients are struggling with issues like pelvic floor dysfunction, emotional overwhelm,  postpartum depression and even generational trauma, it’s time to explore the vital role fascia and fascia release play in postpartum recovery and care. We’re talking about simple strategies providers like you can integrate this wisdom into your practice.


Check out this episode on the blog: https://postpartumu.com/the-critical-role-of-fascia-in-holistic-postpartum-healing-anna-rahe-ep-201/

KEY TIME STAMPS:
00:02: What fascia is and why it’s critical for postpartum recovery.
06:46: Misconceptions about fascia and how they’re sabotaging postpartum healing.
13:18: How traditional postpartum care used fascia massage and why it’s time to bring it back.
20:55: Fascia as a sensory organ: emotional healing, trauma, and the mind-body connection.
26:11: Why postpartum is a long-term journey, not just a short recovery period.


Connect with Anna Rahe:
For the past 25+ years, Anna Rahe has explored a transformative and empowering relationship with fascia, helping people invest in their health, restore vitality, and heal themselves using proprietary tools she developed. As the founder, CEO, and educator of GST Body, Anna has shared her expertise in holistic body care through fascia on a global scale. She has collaborated with top athletes, surgeons, physicians, and celebrities and has been featured in prominent publications such as Shape, Elle, Net-a-Porter, and The Wall Street Journal.
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Speaker 1:

The postpartum care system is failing, leaving countless mothers struggling with depression, anxiety and autoimmune conditions. I'm Miranda Bauer and I've helped thousands of providers use holistic care practices to heal their clients at the root. Subscribe now and join us in addressing what modern medicine overlooks, so that you can give your clients real, lasting solutions for lifelong wellbeing. Hey everyone, welcome to the podcast Y'all. I've got an incredible conversation.

Speaker 1:

I have Anna Rae here, and for the past 25 years, anna has explored a transformative and empowering relationship with fascia and she is helping people investigate their health, restore vitality and heal themselves using proprietary tools that she's developed. She's the founder, ceo and educator of GST Body and she has shared her expertise in holistic body care through fascia on a global scale. And if you don't know what I'm talking about when I'm saying the word fascia, I'm going to tell you we are going to get all into this conversation. You have to know about this. She has collaborated with top athletes, surgeons, physicians, celebrities. She's been featured in prominent publications like Sharp, elle, net-a-porter and Wall Street Journal and all of the things, and when she came across my desk, I was like I have to talk to her because I have some personal experience with working with my fascia and really deeply healing my body and some of the things that had happened to me, like in childhood, using fascia as techniques. So, anna, thank you so much for being here and I'm so excited for this conversation.

Speaker 2:

Thanks for having me. It's really really fun to be here.

Speaker 1:

So fascia kind of seems to be a buzzword, like in the wellness area, like I'm really finding a lot of people talking more about it, but many providers one no providers are trained in this and two like I feel like we're not fully understanding its significance. We don't really just kind of know what it is. Can you explain fascia in a way that will help providers and advocates really see this connection to postpartum healing? Providers and advocates?

Speaker 2:

really see this connection to postpartum healing Totally. First of all, if I pronounce it differently I just didn't want to interrupt you I say fascia. Fascia tends to be what they put on the sides of buildings. I think that's the way that they pronounce, like what's on a house fascia, so it could be fascia. Some people say fascia, some people say fascia and I say fascia. So there's all tomato, tomato. I didn't notice.

Speaker 1:

but if I started pronouncing it differently than you, I didn't want people to be hysterical Like maybe I've just been pronouncing it wrong my entire life.

Speaker 2:

I think there's options, is all I'm saying. Everybody has a little bit of a different enunciation, pronunciation. So I say fascia, but you can say oh cool, we're just going to roll with it. Anyway, the thing is not how you say it, it's how important it is to our health, men and women, but especially women. It has a really key component to us as hormonally, but also as just being moms and being healthy and postpartum. So there's so many applications.

Speaker 2:

What is fascia? I'll just give you the general overview. So fascia is a type of connective tissue. When you refer to it as a fascia, a type of tissue, you're referring to it kind of like saying your T-shirt's made of cotton, it's a fabric that is made from elastin and collagen particulin. In the body it shows up in many different areas. It's kind of like saying that, if you use the fabric analogy again, you have fascia that surrounds your organs and it's more kind of like a sateen and silky and and you know, that's what makes it stretchable and helps with organ motility. You have the myofascia, which is the fascia of your muscular skeletal system, and that's rugged and sturdy, it's kind of like linen and it has like high wear and you can wear it every day. And then you have like other kinds, like the ECM, which is a little bit more like a Gore-Tex-y, like connective strengthening channels through the body. So I like to first introduce fascia like a fabric so people can kind of understand that it's literally everywhere inside of you. It's like the thing that connects and holds and gives shapes to your body, holds in the muscle fibers and their bundles into configurations. But in its greatest capacity it actually organizes an entire body system called the connective tissue system. And when you start to back out and open the aperture a little bit from like what it looks like on the inside to what it does for the body, it's really helpful to see that, just like the cardiovascular system of a nervous system, it comes complete with its own organs, the way fascia organizes around all other body systems. And this is where it becomes really important to our health. Because when you're dealing with fascia you're deep, deep venerated in all these other body systems.

Speaker 2:

And fascial organs don't come in massed organs like a heart or like your lungs, where they're really obvious. They're layered organs so they almost look like cellophane or like if you kind of peeked inside the skin, it's a gooey, jelly, kind of spider web, white canvas, that kind of pours over everything. And this is one of the reasons that it's been kind of not recognized for many years in anatomy dissection and it hasn't been a. The reasons that it's been kind of not recognized for many years in anatomy dissection and it hasn't been a focus is because it's been really hard to see what the significance is. Right, we could look at a heart and be like, oh, this has a lot of meaning, it's got to do something.

Speaker 2:

But when you look at something that's layered and kind of looks like Kitty went crazy inside of you with yarn, there's no organization and we're like, oh, this stuff is superfluous, right. And all of a sudden, about in the last 20 years, people are like there's a lot of that, there's a lot of that stuff, that fascia stuff. It's gotta be used for something, it's gotta be good for something. So people are starting to put the kind of the mystery together and we're learning a lot Like. It's kind of like the new frontier of health, in fact, that we are still discovering. Here's some things that it does and here's how it affects you. But there's not a part of you in your health and wellness, your mental and your physical wellbeing. That fascia is not integrated into because of how it wraps around every other system.

Speaker 1:

This is incredible and I feel like, again, this is not something that's typically covered in traditional provider care, and we're just I feel like we're not necessarily just learning about it, although we are now like discovering it, more so in science than we had before. And I also feel like there's some big misconceptions about fascia I'm going to say it differently about fascia and uh, and I really want, if you could, to like address some of these misconceptions like what do we need to unlearn? Uh, to better support postpartum women.

Speaker 2:

So I think that the biggest thing for us is understanding, first of all, the connective thing. A lot of times postpartum is littered with like tons of various symptoms, right, all different kinds of scattered symptoms, and we kind of start shooting at symptoms rather than looking to source and all of a sudden FASHA is like wait a second, I'm not 365 anatomical parts, I am one system that connects to everything and that really can simplify for practitioners and providers. It can actually simplify what you're looking at. I like to talk a lot about how the medical community is really diagnostic based and so they're an aperture closing where they're like trying to get down to the very like minute specialized focus thing and they forget and they like kind of ignore the periphery. But really what fascia says is that it's all connected and if you deal with what fascia needs to be healthy, all of a sudden headaches, migraines, digestive issues, low back pain, neck and shoulder problems, hormonal imbalances, belly fat, all of these things actually can be dealt with in a very holistic way integrated but holistic. Those kind of are different, but we don't have to go on that right now and so I think it's just the misconception is really starts with how we view the body and fascia is a neat thing I kind of use these terms interconnectedly is that they ask us fascia like, asks us to look at the body like a new world view. You know how like it used to be, like the world is flat. No, the world is round. The world is the center of the universe. No, it's actually just one of 11 planets. And so fascia goes and they said you think this about the body, but really it's like this. And the number one feature of fascia is that it's more a fluid than a water. I mean, it's more water than it is solid, so it's 70% water and 30% fiber.

Speaker 2:

The structure that we see when we do cadavers and anatomical dissections is what we tended to focus on, because as soon as you die, the hydration in the tissue that makes it animated and living disappears, and so we kind of miss that view. And so when we start looking at treatment, the traditional view of aches, pains and problems in the body is that we think the body is weak and that we need to actually make it stronger. And, like you were talking about belly binding or whatever that's called, and I'm like, yeah, we're trying to like, especially postpartum, bring everything together and make it stronger and make it more rigid, because we have a solid body view. And what FASHA says is actually most of the things that are ailing you is because I am too rigid, I am too solid, I am too stuck and I need to actually be hydrated, I need to be individuated. My fibers have to be able to like stretch, like netting, and be able to facilitate organ motility so that the uterus can shrink back down to size and the pelvic floor can reassemble underneath you so that my low back and pelvis are positioned correctly. And so we have to kind of change our body view and it's wider, much more broad aperture of look for the similarities, like what are these symptoms have in common, and then deal with that and then go into the body being not needing strength and rigid and, you know, being held together and being put back together. But fascia gives a really nice, beautiful poeticies of the fact that, instead of thinking that we're solid bones and muscles, fascia organizes as tubes and it actually likes to move hydraulics like a syringe where it pushes and pulls to create freedom and flexibility.

Speaker 2:

And there's another term that we could go into, which is really the balancing of bringing the body back together into homeostasis, called tensegrity, and fascia needs to have not too much tension, not too little tension, just the right amount.

Speaker 2:

And most of our ailments, because of how fast and rapidly we expand in pregnancy, even into our vascular system, even into the cardiovascular health, even into our lungs, tends to be disrupted.

Speaker 2:

The tensegrity is disrupted through pregnancy and so a lot of our symptoms physically we have physiological and then we have like biomechanical symptoms tend to come because that balance is out of whack. And so some of our misperceptions is, if you just go in and strengthen your pelvic floor, everything's going to be okay. But really Fasha says well, actually the upper diaphragm sets the tone for the lower pelvic floor. So we don't want to just go in and do a bunch of ab crunching because we tighten the, we tighten the diaphragm and thoracic, you know, um cavity, and then our pelvic floor is even more handicapped and can't actually restrengthen and retone. So there's a lot of different like reflectivities that fascia provides and so it kind of gives you this new worldview, which is exciting, because all of a sudden you're not stuck in, I have only this in my toolbox. You're like what else can I do? And it gives you so many more options.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, and I I'd love to highlight the fact that this fascia is a missing link and postpartum care and recovery and I was sharing with you before we started recording about how you know, back when, when we had these different kind of traditional practices like belly wrapping, like belly binding you we've got Ben Kung, we've got different cultures around the world who use this as a tool. It was always used in conjunction with fascia massage, and so somebody would come and they would provide this fascia massage. They were an expert in the field and in postpartum, whoever it was in the community and they would provide like a whole body massage with this. And then it was this binding that would happen and in that binding of like bringing the bones back together, that was really what the binding was all about Just like and allowing the fascia to just kind of surround that and just envelope the body and just heal in a different way.

Speaker 1:

And I think that has been something that we've we've forgotten, We've traditionally forgotten how to do that and we're bringing back, like all of these things. But this fascia piece was not a part of that conversation and bringing it back. And that needs to happen, because what you're saying is like there's so many things that occur in this pregnancy and postpartum phase that makes it a necessary piece to health and recovery, and I'd love if you can explain a little bit more like okay, what's happening in the body and pregnancy and postpartum that makes this like such a necessary piece.

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean, I think that it's not obtuse to say that pregnancy is the most dynamic experience that the human body could ever go through. Think about how much you have to expand and contract. Within 18 months the body is literally transformed, not just hormonally, but within the layers of tissues. You grow an entire organ, right Like the body, the human body, and I want wanna say the woman's body, because men don't get this privilege, and I feel like a lot of our past kind of anthropological movements supported childbirth better than just laying on a bed putting your feet up in straps, and there's birthing techniques and a lot of different things that they use when you're in labor. But I tell people and we have a program for pregnancies called made to be mama, and it really highlights that the journey of motherhood starts before conception. It starts with preparing the vehicle for the journey. Not just okay, now I've been torn apart, I've been ripped open wide flesh and and soul with this precious baby. Now I have to go in and do damage control and try to reassemble and it's like this could have started way right, preventative right. We're, we're really trying to focus on preventative care and so a lot of our physical training that we do, thinking that we're going to get flat stomachs and trying to tone in our, you know, pre motherhood stays are actually setting up our bodies for failure. The ability to sit where we actually collapse the structural inlet and outlet of the pelvis, like just because you're birthing on a ball, doesn't mean that your actual pelvis is in the right place where the baby is actually positioned correctly. So gravity does its job, and we know through history that labor is one of the most high liabilities for women. Right, death rates were over the top, and yet our bodies were better prepared then than our medical practices. Right, we had poor medical practices. So now we're inverted where it's like our bodies are wrecks and we have better medical service so we can make it through to the other side, but then there's a lot of carnage at the other side.

Speaker 2:

Right, how do we reassemble ourselves? Breastfeeding, the way that we breathe, like all of these things, and a lot of the idea is that as you expand, the baby is growing in three-dimensional space, and yet all of the ways that we embody ourselves is really squeezing the tubes. We are more tubes than sticks, and so our ab crunching and our butt tucking and our, you know, pulling our shoulders down and back and trying to create rigid cores because we think we're building strength. All of these kinds of things actually are hurting and structurally impinging things that need to be able to be, you know, stretching and expanding, and even the uterus and the placenta. These are all three-dimensional organs that need to be supported by what we were talking about in tensegrity, which is structure that is fluid, structure that is mobile and agile and not rigid, and so I feel like the journey to motherhood and taking care of ourselves, even in our mental health, needs to start much earlier.

Speaker 2:

Right, and I think that there is a wisdom that is passed down that we're no longer doing like helping each other, like everything has become so medicalized that like I don't know what you're talking about with like belly, bunny and stuff. There's some really good logic there. What's interesting is that, as you talk, I'm like, are they applying it? Like they're just trying to make it more solid rather than let's actually, you know, give the three-dimensional support that's going to actually help the. You know, give the three-dimensional support that's going to actually help the. You know fascial restructure and re-sync as it comes back together. I don't I'm not familiar with all those techniques, but they're really interesting because there's got to be value right.

Speaker 2:

As you expand, you have to be able to contract back in and we need to be able to have our bodies number one, be able to know where back is right. How do we reassemble if we don't know what was supposed to be there in the beginning? And then, as you get to know that body, then you can make choices, and you, you should, I don't know. It's almost like one continuum you shouldn't be thinking.

Speaker 2:

My favorite is when people come in. They're like can you help me get my pre-baby body back? And I'm like there is no pre-baby body, there's just your body. And and so we kind of identify. We're like, well, I didn't have this and I didn't have this. And I'm like, yeah, but you also weren't set up right to have the pregnancy you had, right. So there's a lot of kind of misconceptions there of like you know that we hold ourselves to these, you know unrealistic things, rather than being like, oh, I'm, I'm on a journey. The journey of motherhood is like for not the faint of heart. It's the most amazing journey, but it is not for the faint of heart.

Speaker 1:

I just I have goosebumps. I just want to be like shout out hallelujah, amen, like give you a round of applause because, yes, that's exactly what it is, and so much of our society has forgotten all of these components. I mean, you said yourself like we just really don't remember I think that's the key word we don't remember what it means to really be in our bodies and to heal our bodies and what our bodies are made of. Because, yes, science I think is just catching up to the scene Like these are things that people have known in generations before.

Speaker 2:

Well, and there's deeper wisdom, right Like so much of our knowledge now is cerebral and it's data and it's technology. It's not analog, it's not sensory, it's not feelings from the inside, and one of the things that's beautiful about FASH is that it's really a sensory organ. It has seven times the amount of sensory receptors than muscles do, and so it is constantly online collecting your experiences, and I know you wanted to talk about kind of the emotional journey.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I'm like this is like the perfect intersection.

Speaker 2:

Yes, let's talk about it as an organ of sensory organ. It's busy collecting all your experiences. And so back up just for a second Fascia's greatest role, the connective tissue system's greatest role. It's a movement system, it's a sound system, it's a fiber optic communication system. It's communicating everything in the body to the brain. They say that the fascia is kind of like the organ of body consciousness, the way that the brain is the organ of mind consciousness. And so all of a sudden you have these two hubs of information that communicate beautifully together and synchronistically if we don't cut it off, if we don't cut our head off from our bodies. And so fascia, from that energetic perspective, has two major inputs mechanical load, which is like the expansion and contraction of tissue carrying your baby, lifting your strollers, trying to breastfeed. These are called mechanical loads and they're high voltage. They come from outside in and the fascia is busy acting like a trampoline, catching that mechanical load, distributing it and helping toute it, or what we call metabolizing energetic force. Loads From the inside. Fascia also responds to our stress loads. I call them our chemical loads, the way we think the neurotransmitter hormone secretion into our tissues. Fascia contracts and expresses this. And this is where trauma and imprinting comes into the fascia is that it's busy taking high voltage and low voltage loads and modulating and dancing those loads to make our energetics resonant and effective. So when we start looking at it from a sensory organ, first in motherhood, one of the most important things that we can do is get out of our head and get into our hearts and our bodies, because there's so many hormones moving that when we start trying to analyze everything up here, it creates fissures and fractures in our ability to assess correctly what's going on.

Speaker 2:

I don't remember if you had this experience, but when I first had my baby, vera I have three little kids and Vera is now nine and I remember her just like the, the, the desperation of the first time. I knew I couldn't understand what she was saying, she can't talk and she can't, and I was like but you're just crying and I don't know how to, and it felt like this pressure. And then I felt like I wasn't capable and I just remember, because of GST and fascia, I was like just go inside and feel her, feel what she's feeling, and I put my little hands on her legs while she was in the crib and I just sat there and I was like what is the wisdom that my body's giving me, because because she's not in my womb doesn't mean that I don't have fascial connection with her. Interesting thing is that babies will share the same auric field with their mother for up to five years post delivery, and so you literally not woo-woo spirituality can tap into the energetics of your baby without thinking are they wet, are they da-da-da? It's like, just feel them. And what's really interesting is when I did that, vera's entire countenance just dropped, like her tears stopped, her body stopped and there was this like presence and at the moment I was like this is the wisdom that I want to parent from. This is the wisdom that's going to calm my depression, calm my anxious mind. I'm just going to tap into the feeling and I would ask myself we do this in physical loading how do I move this? How do I move this energy right? If I am trying to work on latching, or if I'm trying to work on pelvic floor health, or if I'm just trying to work on sleep training, whatever the case, I'm like this contraction, this anxiety that I'm experiencing from the baby, this like dance of experience. How do I move this and create like energetic exchange with my baby?

Speaker 2:

And it really simplified the complex, like cognitive list of things and and tips. And you know like I find that there's like two or three different areas for women that have too much tips, and one of them is postpartum, like being a mother. Motherhood is like full of hands down and I'm like fuck, stop, I just need to clear the space. So fascia allows you this listening this deep, like a tuning fork. I call it your divining rod, where literally it's a, it senses things that you can't even really comprehend. And if you go into lo-fi instead of this high strung place and that's probably why meditation works so well, if you can actually calm a little bit.

Speaker 2:

But sometimes I can't even couldn't even at the time get into my brain because it was so scattered and it was so, you know, messy. So I just had to go into my body and all of a sudden it was like a center, it was like this tuning fork that was. That is very telling me what it was, was going on. So it's one of the greatest tools that I think. A parent, a mother I try to teach this to my husband and it actually helps him too. With a, it's a little bit different. You know, I was going to ask you. This came up to me last night when I was looking I was like how long does postpartum authentically last? Because I'm like, could I still be nine months, like I mean nine years into postpartum with my girl?

Speaker 1:

Okay, so here's, here's the thing on that question, because I get this one a lot Statistically, when we start like looking at what's the science behind it, they say in five to six years postpartum, that's how long it takes for a mom to feel back into her body. And if you're talking about it and there's so many different components, right, we look at brain changes. They occur two to three years after having a baby. You look at when your joints and ligaments return to its pre-pregnancy state at least nine to 12 months postpartum, right, and so the length of your time in postpartum is extensive. Most cultures say that you're postpartum for life, but I always say that those five to six years are the most significant. And the fact that you just connected the fascia of a baby and the energy of a baby to their mother for the first five years, I was like, yep, that's it. And so it's funny that you connected that and asked me that question because I was just thinking it. So we are very connected, yeah.

Speaker 2:

That is really interesting. I didn't know those but I do, like the, also thought. I don't know if you've ever read this book. It's called the Estrogen Brain and it really talks about how pregnancy literally alters your brain for life and it changes the like chemical, neurochemical patterns of how, because then you're like all of a sudden they're still in your purview, right Like my mom still. I'm still in her womb in a way, not like overly protected, but she like knows when I'm in a room that's not, and I'm like is that the estrogen pathways, like she's wired? Her brain is wired to me?

Speaker 1:

She literally has you in her cells, right? And so science can, like, take her, her cells, actually find the dna of you in it and know that, oh, she gave birth to this girl, right, and she also gave birth to like they can see that. So you are in her and it's just. It's an absolute amazing thing to see the connection that we have said one is about.

Speaker 2:

postpartum is just really is a process of getting back into your body, which is where I think our conversation really collides, because the fastest way to climb back into your body which, ironically, is also the second thing that I feel like that you would maybe agree with me on, which is climbing back into yourself. Motherhood is really about finding self. It's not really about being a mother, right? So much of our focus is always on this role rather than the returning home. Like you actually become more of yourself as a mother. You're becoming more of what you already are, and so to climb back in is such a solace. I think that sometimes we're so scared, we're always like distracted and drawn out and our children pull us out of ourselves, right, like that's part of the. The coming home to yourself is having a place to go into, and so I feel like there's no better way than through the organ that is feeling everything for you and telling you what is true and giving you attention, read, it's like a barometer.

Speaker 2:

Fascia reads the tensions and will be like. This feels like anxiety, this feels like and what's really interesting about fascia, which is why I'm really passionate about it, for, um, I want to say like the, the framework here is is, uh, postpartum, but the framework for any woman in general is that it literally gives you this like toolbox for life. It's like how do I handle the tensions of life? That's all fascia is there for. How do I metabolize my tensions in life and bring them about into flow where I can actually take them and they don't hold me captive, they don't sink my ship, they don't create confusion and, you know, break my relationships? How can I stay true and work with tensions?

Speaker 2:

Because I think that one of the things that made me feel so failure for many years was shouldn't this be easier? I'm just not good at this, or I'm like this should be much. If I was good at this, it wouldn't be so hard. And then it's like wait, there's this grace on the other side that it's like you're not going to not struggle, you're just going to get better at the struggle. And fascia says if you know how to take load and force, whether that's chemical Because if you know how to take load and force, whether that's chemical, emotional stuff, or if that's the physical loads that burden you, and learn how to metabolize them, spread them out, layer them, learn how to work with them, you will find your freedom on the other side.

Speaker 1:

That's really powerful for moms and women in general who constantly live under, I think, more aggressive tensions than even, maybe, men, because of what is demanded of us, yes, and because of the way that we're raised, the way that we're coming up into a world of women who have had to fight for their rights, fight for everything, and how many women have experienced some form of sexual violence, sexual trauma, trauma, you know, I mean women have had so much in the generations before us. And the things that we carry, I mean we carry. We carry what our mothers have, you know, just as our, we, as our, we're in our, in our mothers, and our children are in us, we're in them, and we feel that seven our children are in us, we're in them, and we feel that Seven generations, yes, within you, right, and I think that's a beautiful thing. Yes, we have, like, these traumas that are passed down, but we also have their wisdoms, that's right. They are still within us, and so I am just like over the moon to have you here.

Speaker 1:

I want everybody to know how to find you, what you do Like, tell me all the things. Where can people go? Flock to you?

Speaker 2:

Come find me at gstbodycom. I think that's the easiest to remember. My last name is spelled weird, even though it's pronounced Ray, so go to GST Body and you can follow me on Instagram at GST Body or Anna Ray of GST, my last name is spelled R-A-H-E. No one's going to remember that, so just if you can put it in the show notes.

Speaker 1:

We got it, we got you covered. We'll have all your links, your name, everything.

Speaker 2:

And it's a company that's just dedicated to whole body and whole being health through the lens of fascia. That's pretty integrated but also holistic.

Speaker 1:

I am so grateful for you. I feel like I can sit here and talk forever on so many different topics, but all all interrelated, right Like we just opened up Pandora's box. Here is what we've done.

Speaker 2:

I would encourage people to just go listening, to go on a deep dive, cause it's really a beautiful broad application to almost anything you can think of postpartum and anything you can think of to help your own practice to be able to reach farther and wider and see the bigger connection for your patients and your clients.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much. This has been a dream, Thank you. Thank you, Anna. I appreciate you. Thanks so much for being a part of this crucial conversation. I know you're dedicated to advancing postpartum care and if you're ready to dig deeper, come join us on our newsletter, where I share exclusive insights, resources and the latest tools to help you make a lasting impact on postpartum health. Sign up at postpartumu the letter ucom which is in the show notes, and if you found today's episode valuable, please leave a review to help us reach more providers like you. Together, we're building a future where mothers are fully supported and thriving.

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